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* The only way to use Discord is through their horrible electron client which I don't like very much.
* The only way to use Discord is through their horrible electron client which I don't like very much.
* They keep trying to sell me Discord Nitro which i don't want.
* They keep trying to sell me Discord Nitro which i don't want.
* They just kind of let researchers [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.00627 scrape and publish two billion messages] without really doing anything to stop them. This is also a problem with other platforms but at least you can configure your IRCd to make this quite difficult.


== Why IRC ==
== Why IRC ==
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== Also ==
== Also ==
The forums are going to fit into this somehow. Details to come
The {{pronounmail|chat||forums}} are going to fit into this somehow. Details to come


== March Update ==
== March Update ==
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== April Update ==
== April Update ==
We gave the original plan a real college try and it didn't really work out. The accounts system is confusing and the UI of every client is so so bad. Tubes will win. See you in a month.
We gave the original plan a real college try and it didn't really work out. The accounts system is confusing and the UI of every client is so so bad. Tubes will win. See you in a month.
== May Update ==
I'm really busy right now but will cease to be in almost exactly 18 hours.

Latest revision as of 13:11, 23 May 2025

The First Chat Migration is an upcoming event in the rich tapestry that is Pronounmail history.

Why Not Discord

  • Discord is probably going to go bankrupt at some point.
  • Alternatively: Discord is probably going to try an IPO at some point (sorry for the nyt link).
  • Discord is based in America, which is a country currently in the process of becoming even more American. This is possibly going to cause problems down the line.
  • The only way to use Discord is through their horrible electron client which I don't like very much.
  • They keep trying to sell me Discord Nitro which i don't want.
  • They just kind of let researchers scrape and publish two billion messages without really doing anything to stop them. This is also a problem with other platforms but at least you can configure your IRCd to make this quite difficult.

Why IRC

Why Not Matrix

To Do

Tech Stack

  • Tubes (client (not stable))
  • Ergo (server (pretty okay))
  • Coleslaw (bridge (very not stable))

Also

The forums are going to fit into this somehow. Details to come

March Update

I got sidetracked again. In theory, the new protocol should be much less nightmare to implement on both sides of the equation. Once I have a bit more time I'm going to see if that's actually true.

April Update

We gave the original plan a real college try and it didn't really work out. The accounts system is confusing and the UI of every client is so so bad. Tubes will win. See you in a month.

May Update

I'm really busy right now but will cease to be in almost exactly 18 hours.